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Sirach 23:16 does not contradict the teaching of everlasting punishment

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mikeforjesus:
Sirach 23:16
Two sorts of men multiply sins,
and a third incurs wrath.
The soul heated like a burning fire
will not be quenched until it is consumed;
a man who commits fornication with his near of kin
will never cease until the fire burns him up.

I know this is ugly and undesirable but it is necessary to contend for the faith. I wish someone better would as I may seem like I enjoy judging others but it is because I made a mistake which I overlooked which I think can be harmful.

I will start by saying this verse from sirach may not be problematic when considering the whole scripture

Matthew 25 talks about everlasting fire and everlasting punishment
The fire is everlasting as long as there is sin until it destroys the person but the person continues to exist but he is destroyed and without life because he can never make up for his sins and pay the last penny which only Jesus can redeem him as psalm 49 says. He is the only ransom. The fire may still be everlasting in hell as long as sin is revived the fire keeps burning him up. So sin must always cease through the fire. That is why Jesus said to the Jews if you do not believe I am He you will die in your sins. Our sin is always existent without Jesus who takes away the sin of the world. The sin keeps existing and is not cured but it may be limited to give a little rest but I don't know but it keeps existing coming back in its fullness so it keeps getting punished.

That may be what sirach means the sin will never cease unless it is fully burned up which will never be but it will keep trying to remove it. Or he may be referring to fire in this life which can be quenched.

It is clear from Daniel that the unrepentant shall rise to everlasting shame and contempt and Mark 9:44-49 and Isaiah 66:24 which clearly says  “the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44-49)

St. Paul says move on from teaching the basics of the faith one being eternal judgement

This is why Felix was afraid when Paul warned of judgement and self control

It is clear as Jude says they will suffer the blackness of darkness forever

Jesus explains there is a gulf fixed between the righteous and the wicked in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus even between those who want to cross over

mikeforjesus:
Was going to be silent so as not to think I am trying to make people leave the church but now that I see some church people make events to attack Protestants for believing they can understand the bible I will say the below as they seem to want them to go to hell if they don’t go to the church:

My dad told me he only takes the bible as infallible even though orthodox accept this book and the church which was united before chose the canon. However Protestants also have reason for accepting the books of the bible perhaps. Maybe the manuscripts are dated.They also seem to study the early church fathers I don’t know why they may agree there was a church then but it came to include all believers. Anyway sirach is still a book of wisdom though he may not have been a prophet though he may be. The church likely got the canon right but that does not mean Protestants are not saved even if they do not agree with how some interpret tradition

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