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mikeforjesus

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Beware of crafty wolves in sheep clothing
« on: August 01, 2018, 05:22:59 am »
Some peopleís intent is to destroy peopleís faith and stumble them. I donít talk of those who want to be open to the truth and donít judge until they can help people and righteous enough to admit they may not know the truth. If people have no doubts about their beliefs atleast they should say I have no doubt in what I believe but I could be wrong.You can speak without pronouncing sure judgements and therefore being guilty of judging because only Jesus can judge who has or is keeping His word and who deserves pardon One should ask for God to give them evidence to share with others. I donít mean necessarily intellectual but I mean for God to open others eyes to see the truth and show it to them somehow

Every person has always been accepted who believed in Christ and repented. Paul says grace and peace to all who calll upon the name of our Lord Jesus.

Only when God revealed to them somehow they needed to join the church they had to join the church. I also try to describe this as being witnessed with power

The truth is Christians have to strive to be dead to sin by their faith in Christ. The apostles are not the only teachers. God distributes gifts to the whole Christian body

Ephesians 2:11-16
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the
trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the headóChristó 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Ephesians 2:14-18
Christ Our Peace
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Every person has always been accepted who believed in Christ and repented. Paul says grace and peace to all who calll upon the name of our Lord Jesus.

Only when God revealed to them somehow they needed to join the church they had to join the church. I also try to describe this as being witnessed with power

The truth is Christians have to strive to be dead to sin by their faith in Christ. The apostles are not the only teachers. God distributes gifts to the whole Christian body

Ephesians 2:11-16
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the
trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the headóChristó 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Ephesians 2:14-18
Christ Our Peace
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

I posted that here
https://forums.catholic.com/t/on-this-rock-i-build-my-church/500527/132?u=truthlovingorthodox
« Last Edit: August 01, 2018, 06:07:06 am by mikeforjesus »

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Re: Beware of crafty wolves in sheep clothing
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2018, 09:15:56 am »
You are free to debate respectfully
Even the non Christian we should not tell them off but aim to help and guide them lovingly if they need it and not if they are hostile to you which is why Jesus said take the plank out of your eye to see clearly to remove the speck out of anotherís. You can only sow a seed and keep sowing if it is of God people will be convicted but if it is not of God people will not be convicted.
That seems to be close if not the same as the distinction between proselyting and preaching Pope Francis talks about.